July 30, 2012

DWill > DRose?

The Brooklyn Nets recently acquired point guard C.J. Watson from the Chicago Bulls. Watson proved to be a most reliable back-up for Derrick Rose, and will likely play that same role in Brooklyn behind Deron Williams, of whom Watson gave enormous praise in his press conference...

"I always thought Deron was the best point guard in the league, always playing against him, watching him...when everyone asks me who is the toughest point guard, I always say him."  -Watson's comment when asked to compare Williams and Rose.

At first I thought we might discuss our own comparisons of Deron Williams and Derrick Rose, but frankly, there are so many talented point guards in the game today, opinions will surely vary as to who is the best overall. So, we've generalized this week's question:

If you could have any point guard right now to start a team with, who would it be and why?

In my opinion, Rajon Rondo gives you more at the point guard position than anyone else could. As a floor general, he's proven to be one of the best. Say what you want about his fortunate situation in Boston, because even Kevin Garnett constantly eludes to the fact that Rondo is the floor leader and makes everyone else better.

Scoring point guards seem to be the new theme, and as a scorer, Rondo can be highly unorthodox. It's no secret he's not a good shooter, but he somehow finds ways to make the shots he needs to. Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals was a complete showcase of Rondo's scoring ability when he gave Miami 44 points on 16-24 shooting. His crafty play makes him a scoring threat going to the basket because of his nifty lay ups and floaters in the lane. Simply put, Rajon Rondo is a legitimate scoring threat.

Lastly and most importantly, give me Rajon Rondo because he is by far the best rebounding point guard in the NBA, maybe the best since Magic. This guy gets triple doubles like they give him bonuses for them, and he is as active on the glass as he is running the Celtics' offense. I guess what makes me want Rondo is his versatility as a point guard. He will go out and get you 15+ assists one night, and 15 rebounds the next, maybe both in the same night, all while doing the intangibles necessary to win basketball games.

This was a tough one for me because I played this position my whole entire life. Point guards must posses leadership, defensive prowess, passing, and scoring. D-Will posses all of these qualities. Year after year he has proven himself as a top performer in this league.

Some people tend to categorize him as a scoring point guard, but I view him as more versatile. Throughout his career he has averaged about 19 points and 9 assists a game. He has a balanced floor attack that keeps other point guards on their toes. He was the first NBA player to average 20 points and 10+ assists in 5 straight playoff games. Although proven to be an All-Star in this league he has never been in the best situations regarding his team. The Utah Jazz did not give him the building blocks he needed to take them to the next level. The Brooklyn Nets have accommodated the star with All-Star talent, and I can't wait to see this team in their new spotlight.

Additionally, why not choose a point guard that most starters and back ups have been quoted on calling him the toughest. Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook have both commented on how physical he is which sets him apart from other point guards. I believe this year will be his breakout year to go along with his new stadium and city.


Being that I played the point guard position since I was in grade school, answering this question was a little harder than I originally thought. The position that was once glorified by a great decision maker, a “floor general”, the guy that makes his teammates better first and foremost has begun to shift into a combo of explosive scoring as well. Surveying the field there’s about 5-6 guys I believe you can’t go wrong with, but if I’m a GM, I’m starting my franchise at the lead guard position with last year's number one overall pick: Kyrie Irving aka “Uncle Drew”. 

Drafted to a franchise that had their hearts ripped out by LeBron James, who would have ever thought there would be so much promise in the Cavs' future and this soon. Well I believe Cleveland fans have a reason to hold their heads up again. Not a huge Duke fan to say the least, so I didn’t see much of Kyrie in college, but I heard all the hype. Skeptical at first, I soon became a believer. Winning Rookie of the Year honors last season, Kyrie averaged 18.5 ppg 3.7 boards and 5.4 assists. I’d like to see those assists increase, which should come in time as he gets better teammates around him and his game matures. Let’s not forget he plays for Cleveland. The combination of scoring and creating is there when you watch Kyrie. The dunks, the top 10 plays (and he had a few) are the things that keep fans on the edge of their seat. But when I look at Kyrie I see a combination of a couple great point guards; the handle of a Chris Paul and the shooting ability of Steve Nash. As a rookie, Kyrie shot 46% from the field and a shade under 40% from behind the arc at 39&. I’d take those numbers any day of the week. Standing 6’3 his ability to defend will continue to improve as he gets stronger and more comfortable with the game. 

One of the stats that only aids my argument for Kyrie was Player Efficiency Rating or PER. Kyrie’s rookie season rating of 21.4 stacks up top 5 of ALL TIME only trailing Chris Paul, Walter Davis, Michael Jordan, and Oscar Robertson. Aside from Walter Davis who played for the Suns in the late 1970’s through the mid 80’s, take a minute and look at the names he’s just behind, including being ahead of Magic Johnson. If that’s not impressive enough, here's another stat. According to 82games.com, clutch time is when the game is in the balance of five points in either direction, with five minutes or less left in the fourth quarter or overtime. Kyrie LED the NBA in points per 48 minutes of clutch time, scoring 56.4 points per 48 minutes when the game is on the line. And this is six more points than the second place guy, Kevin Durant. Ball handle, check, shooting ability, check, ability to make others better, check, clutch gene, check. "Uncle Drew” is no joke and nothing short of the real deal. I believe the sky is the limit for this kid if they continue to build and put the right pieces around him. Because just around the corner will be the expectations to win. I don’t expect Kyrie to back down though, and at 20 years old he has only scratched the surface of his full potential in his NBA career. So with my pick we’ll have to see if he proves me right 3-4 years down the road, but I have all confidence the he will back it up. So Kobe Bryant may want to think twice before he puts 50K up against this young horse, he’s well on his way and I can hear the footsteps.

Martin- @marley_mcfly
Janay- @NayJay14
Tommy- @RealThrillHill 


  1. If you asked me this question about seven years ago I would have picked Tommy "thrill" hill. But since this is current point guards I guess I have to go with someone else. All three of your choices are great. I especially love the rondo pick because I feel like his scoring is jut getting better. But, let me preface my choice by starting out with that I am a bulls fan. With that being said,I have to go with Derrick Rose. I know he isn't the typical conventional style point guard but you cannot over look his dynamic ability onthe floor on both sides. His ability to get to the hoop is uncanny for someone at his position. He puts his body on the line which is risky, but it shows the mans heart. He is able to get to any spot on the floor with ease but at the same time he can get his teammates shots. We know he can create for himself, and if his team needs a big shoot, you know he will never shy away from the moment. His intensity on the defensive side has really improved and he leads by example. Martin, you bring up a good point about being a floor general.to me the general needs to be a leader, on and off the court. Which brings me to the reason why I pick this man to be my point guard.Rose takes responsibility for every thing that happens on the floor. If the team loses he feels like he let the entire city down.this is a true team first point guard.I want this guy leading my team.

  2. Oh and let me not forget that he led his team to the best record in the league two years in a row. That is an impressive feat!

    1. Derrick Rose is a great player but does he make other players better? Is he a leader?

  3. I do like Rose's demeanor, the "just get it done" attitude. I think DRose leads by example with his play and staying out of media frenzies off the court. However, Janay's first question is a good one. I don't think he's shown that innate ability to make his teammates better.

  4. I think this past playoff run only strengthens my argument. Once Rose went out the same team who won FIFTY GAMES in the regular season couldn't win more than one for the rest of the series. If I am building a team around one point guard it has to be Rose. The bulls did just that and were the number one seed the past two years. No other point guard can say they did that two years in a row.

    1. We all know he is the one who keeps that team going but lets be honest hes their only efficient scorer. No one else on the team was ever in a leadership role maybe Hamilton. But building a team do you want a locomotive who is just a Russel Westbrook who makes better decisions. Or do you want someone who betters other players and contributes more than just points.

  5. Am I allowed to pick LeBron James haha?

    If not, then durability aside (I know you shouldn't start an argument with a negative but oh well) Chris Paul is who I'd take. He averaged 20 points and 9 assists a game last year. Surprisingly he only missed 6 games amidst the tough shorter schedule and led the league in steals with 2.5 a game. I'm not all about stats per se, but CP3 is a problem on both sides of the basketball.

    Lastly, and in my opinion most importantly, Chris Paul is more competitive than most guys in the league.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgQAbbsdM9c (Youtube/Kobe don't lie)

    1. Both sides of the ball? He is not a great on ball defender. He averages a high number of steals due to deflections but cannot hold the best in the league.

    2. Yes both sides! He's definitely not a great on ball defender, but he's been solid enough to be on the NBA All Defensive First Team in 09 and 12 in addition to being on the NBA All Defensive Second Team in 08 and 11. All Defensive teams are voted on by the 30 NBA coaches which either shows that I should be an NBA coach, or that he's just pretty damn good on defense.

      I agree his steals numbers might be inflated due to deflections but he's still led the league in them 4 of the last 5 years.


    3. Yeah Janay, I'm not sure you can talk on ball defense. CP3 is probably a better on ball defender than your guy DWill. He may not be great, but he's feisty and super competitive. Watch the video Galen attached, the Mamba has spoken!


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